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Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by AngieLake on Friday, 02 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Hi Robert. (In answer to your question about activity outside of the circle):
Sorry I can't help here: the only three lines I dowsed from south to north (red 2, blue 4, and green 6 in Part 1) were contained in the circle of stones. I did not dowse anything further outside, as the 'ceremony' ended inside the N stone (see Part 2) and I was tired by then. This was done in 2005, and I've not dowsed there since, and judging by photos I've posted, 2008 was the last time I visited (with JackME).
I've looked in some old files and can't see anywhere I'd made any notes about dowsing further to the north or south. If I come across anything I will add to this. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by Rivierawriter on Sunday, 04 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Thanks for that. May I use your drawing please in which case I need a name for the credit if at all possible.
I really do need to know where these stones originated. If local then fine but if they came from any distance away one must ask why? Yes, why use white quartz if local stones are available nearby? One weighing 12 tons needs a lot of strong men and a lot of very strong rope as well. They must have had a very great need to go to all that trouble. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by AngieLake on Sunday, 04 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Hello again Robert.
Yes, you may use those two dowsing plans for your book, and all the descriptions of what is going on will be in comments underneath them on the Duloe site page. My name is Angela Lake, and friends call me Angie, hence 'AngieLake' being my Meg P name.
I usually add 'copyright: Angie (or Angela) Lake, ...(date)...' to those plans, but I see I forgot to do that with the Duloe ones.
They are copyright, so could you state that too?
Let me know when the book is ready to come out. Best of luck with it.
(NB: I've just realised you've been discussing your subject in the Forum, but I rarely follow those subjects.)
I googled for 'origin of Duloe circle quartz stones' and found this:
"Most Cornish circles are made of granite stones, but at Duloe the stones have a high quartz content, making them appear almost white in bright sunlight. The stones are thought to come from an outcrop of the Herodsfoot lead lode about 2 miles away, though there is a similar outcrop at Tregarland Tor about a mile away. The stones weigh up to 9 tons, and it is thought that it would have taken teams of 30-35 people to move them to their present site at Duloe."
On this website:
http://www.britainexpress.com/counties/cornwall/ancient/duloe-stone-circle.htm | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by Rivierawriter on Monday, 05 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Thanks Angie, full credit will be given. I look at this subject through the eyes of an engineer who questions things that do not add up. I am extremely interested in the use of stones etc that were not sourced locally. By locally I mean by simply using an outcrop or shards left on the spot. Moving a 9 ton lump of inanimate stone across a bleak moor for any distance could not have been easy and my interest is in why they bothered. 2 miles is a long way because they would need to be hauled, rather than rolled, indicating a sophistcated method of making very strong rope. Why source and then extract white quartz when locally was all the granite necessary for a simple stone circle? I see that others have identified a 'cist' in the centre of this circle. Do you know in what context they use the word 'cist'?
I most certainly will give you full credit for your help here which is much appreciated. I estimate now that the book will be ready by around the early summer and will let you knowin due course. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by golux on Monday, 05 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Hi Robert
If you are asking what archeologists mean by "cist", it is a stone box, commonly formed by excavating a trough then lining the base and sides with stones and covering it with more stones, used by neolithic people as a grave. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by Rivierawriter on Wednesday, 07 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Thanks Angie, I just wondered whether it was a big one to hold a body or a small one to hold artefacts? It may or may not be significant. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by golux on Wednesday, 07 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Cists are burial chambers, for storing bodies not artefacts.
(And I'm not Angie.) | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by angieweekender on Friday, 09 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Cists held both human remains and objects/grave goods. Look at the WhiteHorse hill cist for a good example. I am another Angie π | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by angieweekender on Friday, 09 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | And there's often pottery/ beakers/ burial urns in cists | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by AngieLake on Friday, 09 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | The title to this thread may not be relevant, unless Robert decided it was another reason for the quartz stones to be involved?
(I wonder if you just typed your first comment into the comment box at the bottom of the site page, without changing the Subject title, Robert?)
Thanks for the comment regarding my dowsing plans and the copyright statement.
Regarding the ritual aspect, I feel compelled to see these circles and tomb forecourts as places where such ceremonies were enacted, but of course, they may just have been meeting places, or trading places. When I ask the rods to show me where the 'priest/ess' moved in their ceremony at the height of the sites' importance, I have to take their response at face value. However, as I always add, there is no way to prove this and I offer the results with an open mind, for others to make up their own minds. One day it may become possible to tell more about the findings, some of which could possibly be magnetic responses. As I've sometimes been led to another area of the site that is important, or taken near or around the sites of votive deposits, I tend to lean towards the ritual result. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by AngieLake on Tuesday, 06 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Thanks Robert. I think there must have (originally) been something very special about the site of the circle and when someone from that community found the quartz stones at the other site, they just 'had to have them'. Probably out to impress the neighbours? or impress the gods??
The builders of Stonehenge moved those huge Sarsens from quite a distance, and whatever theory you have about the bluestones, they still had to be moved from another area.
I'm fascinated by the human-shaped stone -
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=15748
Maybe it was chosen for that reason? Maybe that was the first (or only one) chosen, as it represented a shining god, and then they thought 'why not make a circle and make it ALL from quartz?' (Just thinking aloud.)
I often wonder whether my Stone 16 theory (the sarsen at the SW arc of Stonehenge) was there previously, and represented a goddess or fertility symbol. Surely it's possible that one of those sarsens could have stood there before the first stage of SH?
Nice to be prompted into thinking outside the circle [box], ha!ha! | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by Rivierawriter on Wednesday, 07 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | I have a problem with the constant religious idea for these things and like to look at other optiions which is why I am so interested in the quartz. As you say, those bluestones had to have been mighty important for them to go to all that trouble. And why, just outside Dunoon in Scotland, did someone source and then put on site a large piece of Rock Crystal on a cairn? There is no Rock Crystal anywhere near the Clyde.
My book is looking at it all forensically through the eyes of an engineer. I only see what is before me and ask the questions of when? how? and, most of all, why?
All fascinating stuff that keep the little grey cells ticking over.
Great to be in touch Angie and the copyright notice has gone in with your drawing. The text is about done, now for the line drawings after which I breath a huge sigh of relief. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by Rivierawriter on Monday, 12 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | We seem to be slightly out of sequence here Angie but I am interested in what you say. I am assuming that the cist here is one for bits and pieces rather than a body because it doesn't look all that big. As I have said, dowsing does not work with me. No matter how much I try, nothing happens but I see your phrase 'when I ask the rods' and find it interesting indeed. How do I 'ask' my dowsing tools something? Are they not re-active rarher than pro-active? How do you ask dowsing rods something in this context? | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by Martin_L on Monday, 12 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | The size of a cist does not clearly indicates its purpose because there have been various forms of burials: for example crouched inhumations and esp. cremation burials. So even in very small cists several containers with cremation burials have been found.
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Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by AngieLake on Monday, 12 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Hello Robert
I'm sorry I posted the last reply under the wrong thread, it was too late when I noticed. Never mind, it's all on the site page, but I guess Andy would have preferred it to be a thread on the Forum?
If you click on this link:
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=3848&forum=4
it takes you to an article I wrote about my methods of dowsing in 2010 (I don't belong to a group these days, and rarely dowse now, btw), and hopefully it will give you the answers.
When dowsing, you do need to have a thought in your mind about what you are seeking. (ie: lots of people try locating underground pipes).
Try to be quiet in yourself and shut out other thoughts then focus on what you are looking for.
Many people say they ask for permission to dowse before they start, but I'm afraid I don't.
If you go to Devon dowsers org and type Angie Lake in the search box (or is it Angela Lake?), it'll take you to some of the reports I've posted there. | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by angieweekender on Friday, 09 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Areas of Cornwall are not just volcanic, they are granitic. If you are looking for a source of large lumps of Quartz , look no further than the China clay areas. You get huge thick seams/veins of Quartz. The nearest China clay area is St. Neots which is 7 miles away. I'm not sure whether there is any older workings nearer to Duloe where the large Quartz could be sourced. I mean enormous. You'd have to go and have a look at defunct China clay quarry to witness it. They beggar belief! | [ Reply to This ]
Re: UFO witness appeal at Duloe by Rivierawriter on Wednesday, 14 March 2018 (User Info | Send a Message) | Thanks Angieweekender for that. It merely confirms my theory that whether the quartz deposit is a hundred yards, or seven miles, away, shifting a massive 9 ton boulder is no mean feat. Think of a very large and full skip that must be dragged across that moor. It must have been extremely important to do so when they could have so easily completed the circle with smaller local stones of granite. I wonder what was so important so very long ago????
And Angie Lake thanks for clarifying the dowsing. I have come across water and gas board people dowsing on building sites in my time in the industry. It still doesn't work for me though!! | [ Reply to This ]
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